Beware of converting your I-DEAS licenses to NX licenses!

If you are a user or company making the transition from I-DEAS to NX via Teamcenter, there are a lot of hassles that you must deal with including data cleanup, buying new hardware, retraining, migrating data, software bugs, and paying higher license and annual maintenance costs.

That last part about licenses is what this blog is about.

Be aware of trading in your I-DEAS licenses for NX licenses until AFTER ALL OF YOUR I-DEAS DATA IS MIGRATED!

If you do not, you cannot upgrade you Teamcenter environment beyond the last I-DEAS version in your possession (DVD or previously downloaded) at the time your I-DEAS maintenance is dropped.  I had this happen to me this earlier year.

The reason is that you will lose access to I-DEAS media when your I-DEAS licenses are gone since the SPLM software distribution (DVD or download) scheme follows what your active up-to-date SPLM license configuration shows.  Yes, I know NX licensing can drive I-DEAS, but that is useless if you cannot upgrade I-DEAS to work with your migration tools.

As anyone that uses CMM to migrate data already knows, a currently supported I-DEAS version in Teamcenter is required as part of the CMM Process to repair data and workaround numerous CMM bugs.  If you upgrade Teamcenter beyond a version that supports the version of I-DEAS you have, your migration process is derailed. 

This forces you to either stay on your current version of Teamcenter until ALL of your required I-DEAS data is migrated to NX, or to no longer be able to properly migrate all of your required I-DEAS data to NX.

You have been warned!

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I-deas to NX licensing

June 21, 2013 02:07 PM by Pat McManus

Thanks for bringing this to people's attention Larry.

Just want to add some comments to your blog.

This is a situation we face on a rather regular basis in my group (license and migration questions usually end up with us).

I have personally dealt with dozens and dozens of sites who have successfully done the trade-in while continuing to use I-deas at their site.

We often discuss this situation with customers and our sales staff when we are presenting Migration options to I-deas customers, so they are aware.

The access to I-deas code on GTAC is not a sales/technical issue, but is driven by finance/legal reasons (SBOX, and such - so trust me you don't want the details).

Faced with this, we have developed some manual workarounds to this situation, and I'm not aware of any customer who had not been able to deal with them (if so, please let us know!).

Point being, while it's a good thing for the customer base to be aware of, it should not be a show stopper for a customer whose situation is right right for the license upgrade.

Regards,

Pat McManus
Sr. Technical Consultant, NX Development, Key Accounts and Migration

Siemens PLM Software Inc.
2000 Eastman Drive, Milford, Ohio 45150 USA
Phone:  +1(513)576-7052 / Mobile: +1(513)227-5800
E-mail: pat.mcmanus@siemens.com

I-deas to NX licensing

June 21, 2013 02:07 PM by Pat McManus

Thanks for bringing this to people's attention Larry.

Just want to add some comments to your blog.

This is a situation we face on a rather regular basis in my group (license and migration questions usually end up with us).

I have personally dealt with dozens and dozens of sites who have successfully done the trade-in while continuing to use I-deas at their site.

We often discuss this situation with customers and our sales staff when we are presenting Migration options to I-deas customers, so they are aware.

The access to I-deas code on GTAC is not a sales/technical issue, but is driven by finance/legal reasons (SBOX, and such - so trust me you don't want the details).

Faced with this, we have developed some manual workarounds to this situation, and I'm not aware of any customer who had not been able to deal with them (if so, please let us know!).

Point being, while it's a good thing for the customer base to be aware of, it should not be a show stopper for a customer whose situation is right right for the license upgrade.

Regards,

Pat McManus
Sr. Technical Consultant, NX Development, Key Accounts and Migration

Siemens PLM Software Inc.
2000 Eastman Drive, Milford, Ohio 45150 USA
Phone:  +1(513)576-7052 / Mobile: +1(513)227-5800
E-mail: pat.mcmanus@siemens.com

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